Yeah, but at Kansas and UNC, you almost have to try and mess up not to be successful at those programs. see Gillespe (sp) I cant even spell his name sadly, the end of Tubby's era at UK. I agree, I think Roy is a great coach, just like Cal, Coach K etc. The name across those jerseys however gets most those kids to play there. They were all successful before the respective coaches were at those schools and will be long after they are gone.

"its not about x's and o's, its about jimmys and joes"